Subtlety Rogue DPS Nerub-ar Palace Raid Guide — The War Within (Season 1)
On this page, you will find tips, tricks, and strategies tailored to your Subtlety Rogue for each boss of the following raid: Nerub-ar Palace. All our content is updated for World of Warcraft — The War Within (Season 1).
Introduction
Below, you can find class and spec-specific advice for every fight in Nerub-ar Palace. If you are looking for a general overview of the Raid that is not spec-specific, check out our dedicated Nerub-ar Palace guides.
Disclaimer: With most bosses having been tested months ago on Beta, we expect many changes to some of the boss design, their mechanics, and how long individual phases on them last. We will update this page once the content has been available on Live servers with many more tips and more specific information.
On this page, you will find tips and tricks specifically tailored toward Subtlety Rogues and its toolkit based on the recommended talent build. It does not include general tips for mechanics, which are included in the full raid guide instead, whereas this page assumes that you are already familiar with most of the major mechanics of each encounter.
All recommendations are progression-based tips and will not necessarily be the best for an overall DPS ranking.
Nerub'ar Palace Boss Guides for Subtlety Rogue
Nerub'ar Palace Raid Builds, Tips, and Tricks for Subtlety Rogue
Tips for Ulgrax the Devourer for Subtlety Rogue
Note that this page will be updated once the content has been playable on live servers, so make sure to check back for more information after the first Week!
Defensive Tips
- Use Cloak of Shadows to remove the DoT from Venomous Lash if your healers are struggling to heal through the damage.
Cooldown Usage
- Simply send your cooldowns on cooldown to maximize boss damage. You can try to help out with adds with Black Powder, but with the current bug where Cut to the Chase doesn't interact with Black Powder, you'll probably just resort to the cleave from Secret Technique.
Mechanical Tips
- Keep your Sprint to feed the boss with Chunky Viscera after each of the phases. Few classes have higher mobility than you do.
Best Talents
Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the build directly into your game!
Tips for Bloodbound Horror for Subtlety Rogue
Note that this page will be updated once the content has been playable on live servers, so make sure to check back for more information after the first Week!
Defensive Tips
- You can use Cloak of Shadows to remove Crimson Rain, or simply use Crimson Vial to help with healing.
Cooldown Usage
- Use your DPS cooldowns on cooldown, and try to make sure you are positioned well to cleave the adds while hitting the Forgotten Harbinger in the Unseeming phase of the fight.
Mechanical Tips
- If need be, you can use Cloak of Shadows or Shadowstep to get to the other side of the beam.
Best Talents
Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the build directly into your game!
Tips for Sikran for Subtlety Rogue
Note that this page will be updated once the content has been playable on live servers, so make sure to check back for more information after the first Week!
Defensive Tips
- Use Cloak of Shadows to get rid of the debuff placed by Phase Blades. Evasion might work on the initial hit as well (has to be tested).
- Use Feint every time Simulacrums are being broken.
Cooldown Usage
- Use your DPS cooldowns on cooldown.
Mechanical Tips
- Keep in mind that while you are able to survive triggering multiple Simalcrums with Shattering Sweep thanks to Feint, the rest of the raid may not be so fortunate.
Best Talents
Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the build directly into your game!
Tips for Rasha'nan for Subtlety Rogue
Note that this page will be updated once the content has been playable on live servers, so make sure to check back for more information after the first Week!
Defensive Tips
- When the boss is casting Erosive Spray use Cloak of Shadows.
- It might be possible to immune-soak Web Reave, in which case Cloak of Shadows or even just Feint might be enough to live through the damage, provided you have a handful of buddies to do it with.
Cooldown Usage
- Use your DPS cooldowns on cooldown.
Mechanical Tips
- Nothing specific for this fight has been figured out (yet!).
Best Talents
Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the build directly into your game!
Tips for Broodtwister Ovi'nax for Subtlety Rogue
Note that this page will be updated once the content has been playable on live servers, so make sure to check back for more information after the first Week!
Defensive Tips
- You can use Cloak of Shadows to remove Web Eruption but make sure you do not hit any other players before removing it yourself.
Cooldown Usage
- Use your DPS cooldowns on the boss unless the tuning demands CDs to be sent on the adds instead.
Mechanical Tips
- Make sure to save Sprint in case you are targeted by Experimental Dosage so that you can break out the eggs that are furthest away from the raid, and closest to the growing void ground effect.
Best Talents
Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the build directly into your game!
Tips for Nexus-Princess Ky'veza for Subtlety Rogue
Note that this page will be updated once the content has been playable on live servers, so make sure to check back for more information after the first Week!
Defensive Tips
- You might be able to use Cloak of Shadows to remove Queensbane but make sure you are not standing in the middle of the raid with it.
- Make sure to hold your Healthstone and Health Potion in case you are ever close to dropping to below 10% HP.
Cooldown Usage
- Use your DPS cooldowns on cooldown.
Mechanical Tips
- Nothing specific for this fight has been figured out (yet!).
Best Talents
Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the build directly into your game!
Tips for The Silken Court for Subtlety Rogue
Note that this page will be updated once the content has been playable on live servers, so make sure to check back for more information after the first Week!
Defensive Tips
- There is nothing specific to note yet.
Cooldown Usage
- Use your DPS cooldowns on cooldown, but if a charge is imminent, save them to benefit from the DPS increase on Anubarash.
Mechanical Tips
- Nothing specific for this fight has been figured out (yet!).
Best Talents
Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the build directly into your game!
On Heroic difficulty, you can play with Replicating Shadows talented as the bosses will likely be tanked close enough to fully benefit from it (you would drop Inevitability if you do decide to do this), but on Mythic this will no longer be possible as the bosses will likely not be tanked close to one another.
Tips for Queen Ansurek for Subtlety Rogue
This boss was not testable on the TWW Alpha/Beta servers. Information will be forthcoming once it is available on Live servers.
Defensive Tips
- Little is known about this boss at the time of writing, but check back after the Heroic Week for some tips.
Cooldown Usage
- Little is known about this boss at the time of writing, but check back after the Heroic Week for some tips.
Mechanical Tips
- Nothing fancy here yet, but do check back in after the Season has been out for a couple of weeks to see if any tricks or tips have been found.
Best Talents
Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the build directly into your game!
General Cooldown Usage
Subtlety Rogue has a few cooldowns to think about using optimally on the fights in Nerub-ar Palace:
- Shadow Blades - Our main, 2-minute cooldown.
- Flagellation - Our 1.5 minute cooldown.
Make sure to use your cooldowns on cooldown as much as possible (synching Flag and Shadow Blades where possible) unless certain adds or DPS phases allow you to get more value out of them. This is typically something you will want to discuss with your Raidleader or the rest of the raid in static groups, while PUGs are more freeform than that. Simply keep an eye out on how you can best serve the raid, even if that means possibly sacrificing the full value of your Cooldowns in order to ensure a problematic add dies. If it wiped you in the previous pull, and you now kill the boss, it does not matter if your DPS is impacted.
Changelog
- 09 Sep. 2024: Guide added.
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This guide has been written by Oxi, a life long Rogue player since early Classic. He is a Moderator in Ravenholdt, the official Rogue Class Discord. He also maintains the Ravenholdt website, and helps ensure that the Tricks of the Trade Rogue podcast runs smoothly.
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