Subtlety Rogue DPS Simulations in Battle for Azeroth (BfA) 8.0.1

Table of Contents

• +Introduction
  • 1. Class Overview
  • 2. Patch 8.0.1 Changes for Subtlety Rogue
  • 3. Subtlety Rogue Strengths
  • 4. Subtlety Rogue Weaknesses
  • 5. Subtlety Rogue Viability in the Current Patch
  • 6. Contents
  • 7. ChangeLog
• +Easy Mode
  • 1. Foreword
  • 2. The Basics for Subtlety Rogue
  • 3. Talent Choice for Subtlety Rogue
  • 4. Stat Choice for Subtlety Rogue
  • 5. Basic Rotation for Subtlety Rogue
  • 6. Best Azerite Traits for Subtlety Rogue
  • 7. ChangeLog
• +Spell Summary
  • 1. Subtlety Rogue Spell Summary
  • 2. Main Resources for Subtlety Rogue
  • 3. Basic Abilities for Subtlety Rogue
    • 3.1. Standard Abilities
    • 3.2. Stealth Exclusive Abilities
  • 4. Important Procs
  • 5. DPS Cooldowns for Subtlety Rogue
• +Builds and Talents
  • 1. Talent Choices for Subtlety Rogue
  • 2. Talent Cheat Sheets for Subtlety Rogue
    • 2.1. Single-Target (Raiding)
    • 2.2. Multi-Target (Dungeons)
    • 2.3. General Use
  • 3. Tier 1 (Level 15) Talents for Subtlety Rogue
  • 4. Tier 2 (Level 30) Talents for Subtlety Rogue
  • 5. Tier 3 (Level 45) Talents for Subtlety Rogue
  • 6. Tier 4 (Level 60) Talents for Subtlety Rogue
  • 7. Tier 5 (Level 75) Talents for Subtlety Rogue
  • 8. Tier 6 (Level 90) Talents for Subtlety Rogue
  • 9. Tier 7 (Level 100) Talents for Subtlety Rogue
  • 10. PvP Talents (War Mode)
    • 10.1. Subtlety Rogue War Mode Talents
      • 10.1.1. General PvP Talents
      • 10.1.2. Recommended Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents
  • 11. ChangeLog
• +Azerite Traits and Armor
  • 1. Disclaimer
  • 2. Azerite Traits for Subtlety Rogue
  • 3. Outer Ring Traits for Subtlety Rogue
  • 4. Middle Ring Traits for Subtlety Rogue
  • 5. Inner Ring Traits for Subtlety Rogue
  • 6. Azerite Traits Rotation Changes and Details for Subtlety Rogue
  • 7. Find Azerite Armor By Trait/Power
  • 8. ChangeLog
• +Rotation, Cooldowns, and Abilities
  • 1. Ability Priority List for Subtlety Rogue
    • 1.1. Single Target
    • 1.2. Multiple Targets (2+)
  • 2. Opening Sequence for Subtlety Rogue
  • 3. Important Notes for Subtlety Rogue
    • 3.1. Combo Points and Energy
      • 3.1.1. Pooling
    • 3.2. Shadow Dance
    • 3.3. Vanish
    • 3.4. Defensive Utility
    • 3.5. Pandemic
  • 4. Core Concepts for Subtlety Rogue
    • 4.1. Resource Management
    • 4.2. Cooldown Usage
      • 4.2.1. Personal Initiative
  • 5. ChangeLog
• +Mythic+ Tips
  • 1. Subtlety Rogue in Mythic+
    • 1.1. Subtlety Rogue Mythic+ Rotation
    • 1.2. Subtlety Rogue Utility
  • 2. Mythic+ Talents for Subtlety Rogues
  • 3. Mythic+ Affixes
    • 3.1. Tier One Affixes
    • 3.2. Tier Two Affixes
    • 3.3. Tier Three Affixes
    • 3.4. Seasonal Affix
  • 4. Mythic+ Azerite Traits
  • 5. ChangeLog
• +Common and Worst Mistakes
  • 1. Overcapping Resources
  • 2. Not Pooling Energy
  • 3. Not Getting The Maximum Amount of Shadowstrikes Inside A Shadow Dance
  • 4. Not Using Cooldowns Together
  • 5. Mismanaging Nightblade
  • 6. Not Fully Utilizing Shuriken Combo
  • 7. Not Knowing How To Sim Yourself
  • 8. Analyzing Your Mistakes as a Subtlety Rogue
  • 9. ChangeLog
• +Frequently Asked Questions
  • 1. Battle for Azeroth Frequently Asked Questions
    • 1.1. Should I Use Fast or Slow Off-Hand Weapons?
    • 1.2. Why Does Haste Have Such High Value in Simulationcraft?
    • 1.3. Does Our Stat Priority Change on Multi-Target?
    • 1.4. What Azerite Traits Should I Aim To Get?
    • 1.5. What Piece is Better, X or Y?
    • 1.6. How Much of X Stat Should I Have?
  • 2. ChangeLog
• +Boss by Boss Strategies
  • 1. ChangeLog
• +Stat Priority
  • 1. The Basics of Stats for Subtlety Rogue
    • 1.1. Single-Target Stat Priority
    • 1.2. Multi-Target Stat Priority
  • 2. Important Notes About Stat Priorities
  • 3. Subtlety Rogue: Getting a Better Understanding
  • 4. ChangeLog
• +Gems, Enchants, and Consumables
  • 1. Gems for Subtlety Rogue
  • 2. Enchants for Subtlety Rogue
  • 3. Consumables for Subtlety Rogue
  • 4. ChangeLog
• +Macros and Addons
  • 1. AddOns for Subtlety Rogue
    • 1.1. ElvUI
    • 1.2. Weak Auras
    • 1.3. Boss Mods
      • 1.3.1. BigWigs Bossmods
      • 1.3.2. Deadly Boss Mods
    • 1.4. Name Plates
      • 1.4.1. KUI Nameplates
      • 1.4.2. TidyPlates
    • 1.5. Damage Meters
      • 1.5.1. Skada
      • 1.5.2. Details
    • 1.6. Extra AddOns
      • 1.6.1. Mik's Scrolling Battle Text
      • 1.6.2. Death Note
      • 1.6.3. Doom CooldownPulse
      • 1.6.4. Angry Assignments
  • 2. Macros for Subtlety Rogue
    • 2.1. Spammable Dance to Shadowstrike
    • 2.2. Startattack Macros
    • 2.3. Tricks of the Trade
• +Gear and Best in Slot
  • 1. Pre-Raid Gearing Strategy
    • 1.1. Mythic Dungeons
    • 1.2. Heroic Dungeons
    • 1.3. World Quests
    • 1.4. Professions
    • 1.5. Reputation
  • 2. Best in Slot List for Subtlety Rogues
  • 3. Trinkets for Subtlety Rogues
    • 3.1. Dungeon Trinkets
    • 3.2. World Quest Trinkets
    • 3.3. Raid and World Boss Trinkets
  • 4. Azerite Gear for Subtlety Rogues
    • 4.1. Azerite Helms
    • 4.2. Azerite Shoulders
    • 4.3. Azerite Chests
  • 5. ChangeLog
• ×Simulations
  • 1. Disclaimer Page
  • 2. Subtlety Rogue Outer Ring Azerite Trait Single-Target Simulation
  • 3. Subtlety Rogue Outer Ring Stacked Azerite Trait Single-Target Simulation
  • 4. Subtlety Rogue Middle Ring Azerite Trait Single-Target Simulation
  • 5. Subtlety Rogue Outer Ring Azerite Trait 3+ Target Simulation
  • 6. Subtlety Rogue Middle Ring Azerite Trait 3+ Target Simulation
  • 7. Subtlety Rogue Racial Bonus Simulation
  • 8. ChangeLog

General Information

On this page, we present you with various simulations results for Subtlety Rogue in World of Warcraft Battle for Azeroth 8.0.1.

The other pages of our Subtlety Rogue guide can be accessed from the table of contents on the right.

About Our Author

This guide has been written by Ashine, European Champion of the second Mythic Dungeon Invitational and a member of two top 60 guilds, Wiping as Intended and Group Therapy. He is regarded as one of the top Subtlety Rogues in the world and contributes a fair bit to the spec's theorycrafting. You can watch him play on Twitch.

1. Disclaimer Page

With the advent of certain tools such as RaidBots, simulating your character has now become simple enough that we can recommend even the average player to sim their own character. It is through advanced simulations that many of the recommendations in this guide are found, and by doing your own you can easily figure out what talents you should be using with your particular gearing combination, what gear to equip, what Azerite pieces to equip and more. Below you will find a video guide from Azortharion on how to sim your character. Underneath that, you will find some generic simulations that apply to most people.

Note that these simulations are made with a premade gear set that is very likely different than what you have. To have accurate results, always simulate your own character.

2. Subtlety Rogue Outer Ring Azerite Trait Single-Target Simulation

3. Subtlety Rogue Outer Ring Stacked Azerite Trait Single-Target Simulation

The simulation above lists the 5 best Outer Ring traits for Subtlety and showcases what happens when you stack multiple points of the same trait. The only trait that loses value massively is Inevitability. This is due to the fact that the secondary effect of the trait, which increases the duration of your Symbols of Death, does not multiply with the number of traits. If possible, aim to only have one Inevitability trait due to the diminishing returns on this trait.

4. Subtlety Rogue Middle Ring Azerite Trait Single-Target Simulation

5. Subtlety Rogue Outer Ring Azerite Trait 3+ Target Simulation

6. Subtlety Rogue Middle Ring Azerite Trait 3+ Target Simulation

7. Subtlety Rogue Racial Bonus Simulation

8. ChangeLog

• 18 Aug. 2018: Updated simulations.
• 13 Aug. 2018: Updated for Battle for Azeroth launch.