Subtlety Rogue DPS Amirdrassil Raid Guide — Dragonflight 10.2.7
On this page, you will find tips, tricks, and strategies tailored to your Subtlety Rogue for each boss of the following raid: Amirdrassil. All our content is updated for World of Warcraft — Dragonflight 10.2.7.
Introduction
Below, you can find class and spec-specific advice for every fight in Amirdrassil. If you are looking for a general overview of the Raid that is not spec-specific, check out our dedicated Amirdrassil, the Dream's Hope guides.
On this page, you will find tips and tricks specifically tailored toward Subtlety Rogues and its toolkit based on the recommended talent build. It does not include general tips for mechanics, which are included in the full raid guide instead, whereas this page assumes that you are already familiar with most of the major mechanics of each encounter. For those interested in Vanish/CD timings for each boss, I have put together a rough spreadsheet taken from the top logs on Lorrgs.io to give players a better idea of when to use their CDs: Lorrgs CD Timings - Sub Rogue
Talent Builds By Boss
Dragonflight Raid Talent Builds for Subtlety Rogue
Single Target and Cleave
The build above is your general single target talent tree. Note there is an Invigorating Shadowdust build that can be better for boss fights with damage amps by allowing you to fit more cooldowns into shorter windows. For more information, I would recommend visiting Ravenholdt.
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Sporadic Adds
This build simply swaps in Shuriken Tornado to help with AoE and Cleave. The Single Target focused build already plays the most useful cleave talent that Subtlety has (
Replicating Shadows) and this build also includes
The First Dance to for a slight bump in low (2-3 target) cleave situations. With
Black Powder being baseline, AoE is no longer a concern for Subtlety moving forward.
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Gnarlroot
Talents/Build
This is an add control and burst phase boss. Which talent set you pick is up to you, and which side of the boss your particular group will need more assistance with. The Cleave build is likely recommended. Depending on how difficult the adds in P1 are to deal with, the AoE build might be viable here. It remains to be seen whether it is worth committing cooldowns for the AoE phase of the boss, or to hold onto all cooldowns for the boss burst, especially as Subtlety Rogue sports one of the highest bursts in the game.
More thorough suggestions and recommendations will come as the raid opens, and strategies form.
Tips
More tips will be added as strategies emerge, and the author gets hands-on knowledge and experience.
For more information, please refer to our Gnarlroot guide.
Igira the Cruel
Talents/Build
This is functionally a single-target fight. The spears are too far apart to be within cleave or melee range.
Tips
Use Feint or
Cloak of Shadows to mitigate the damage from
Blistering Spear.
It was possible to Shadowstep to a friendly player to break the
Blistering Spear tether effect, but this may no longer work on live
servers.
More tips will be added as strategies emerge, and the author gets hands-on knowledge and experience.
For more information, please refer to our Igira guide.
Volcoross
Talents/Build
Single-target.
Tips
The direction of the knockback effect Flood of the Firelands is based
on your position towards the center of the soak circle. Positioning yourself
accordingly allows you to control the knockback direction. You can also
use
Shadowstep on another player to immediately cancel the knockback effect.
This is a fairly straightforward boss with no additional spec-specific tips (yet).
For more information, please refer to our Volcoross guide.
Council of Dreams
Talents/Build
This is a pure 2-target cleave situation for melee, so make sure you spec into Replicating Shadows
Tips
There seems to be very little spec-specific interactions for this fight.
Council is a cleave fight, and cleave fights are typically where Subtlety struggles. The best you can do to combat this shortcoming is making sure you have Replicating Shadows talented.
Make sure to prepare for having to soak Barreling Charge.
Feint
should work wonders here.
For more information, please refer to our Council of Dreams guide.
Larodar, Keeper of the Flame
Talents/Build
We highly recommend the cleave build on this encounter.
Tips
Optimizing DPS for this fight will heavily rely on the boss-timers. Unfortunately, during the PTR testing, the adds died way too quickly, making it impossible to give any concrete suggestions. We will update the guide once the boss has been available on live servers.
Rogue is a great class to soak the Blazing Coalescence orbs, as we
benefit greatly from the increased crit-chance, while also being able to dispel
ourselves using
Cloak of Shadows. Thanks to our 100% movement speed sprint,
we should be one of the go-to assignments for soaking on Larodar.
Make sure to have Feint ready for
Raging Inferno..
For more information, please refer to our Larodar guide.
Nymue, Weaver of the Cycle
Talents/Build
This is a pure single-target encounter.
Tips
Crossing the lines of the Verdant Matrix can be done by using
Shadowstep on a friendly target on the other side.
Yyou can also Shadowstep over
Impending Loom beams; just
make sure you do not land on a
Verdant Matrix line.
For more information, please refer to our Nymue guide.
Smolderon
Talents/Build
Another pure single-target encounter.
Tips
Cloak of Shadows can be used to maximize uptime during the intermission damage amp phases. With invigorating shadowdust builds you should have cloak up for every single intermission. Also, both Crimson Vial and Health Potions can help trigger the health absorb debuff on demand, if the absorb shield is already low enough.
During the intermission, you gain a 100% damage increase after soaking all
five orbs of Devour Essence.
For more information, please refer to our Smolderon guide.
Tindral Sageswift, Seer of the Flame
Talents/Build
Recommend playing the pure ST build for this fight, with Black Powder baseline and
Secret Technique naturally cleaving there's not much more you would need to bring to deal with the roots. Note for Mythic: It is highly recommended you take Shuriken Tornado as root damage ends up being more important in Mythic, and will be much appreciated for the last phase.
Tips
Using Shadowstep on the
Mass Entanglement is possible,
but beware that on Mythic difficulty, it will spawn an add.
Make sure to have your cooldowns available for the intermission phases. The trickiest part of playing Subtlety Rogue on Tindral is ensuring the timings of your cooldown usage to ensure you have all your cooldowns up for the intermission shields. Soon this, and other bosses will be updated with timelines of when to time your vanishes for maximum damage opportunities.
For more information, please refer to our Tindral guide.
Fyrakk the Blazing
Talents/Build
You will want to play the standard build for Fyrakk. While there are adds, your job for Fyrakk is to do single-target damage.
Tips
You can have very high uptime, even during Dream Rend, thanks to
Feint
and
Cloak of Shadows.
You can use Shadowstep or a Warlock Gateway to cancel the knockback
effect as the boss starts the first intermission.
You can soak multiple orbs in the intermission with Cloak of Shadows.
Use Blind and
Kidney Shot to disrupt the small adds in Phase
2. You can even talent into
Airborne Irritant for this to have an AoE
interrupt.
For more information, please refer to our Fyrakk guide.
Changelog
- 24 May 2024: Updated boss tips and CD timings.
- 07 May 2024: Reviewed for 10.2.7.
- 22 Apr. 2024: Reviewed for Season 4
- 20 Mar. 2024: Reviewed for Patch 10.2.6.
- 15 Jan. 2024: Reviewed for Patch 10.2.5.
- 26 Dec. 2023: Updated to prepare for including CD usage on bosses.
- 06 Nov. 2023: Updated for Patch 10.2
- 07 May 2023: Page added.
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This guide has been written by Oxi, a life long Rogue player since early Classic. He is a Moderator in Ravenholdt, the official Rogue Class Discord. He also maintains the Ravenholdt website, and helps ensure that the Tricks of the Trade Rogue podcast runs smoothly.
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