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Top Mistakes Survival Hunters Make (Legion 7.3.5)

Last updated on Mar 24, 2018 at 09:53 by Azortharion 371 comments

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General Information

These are the most common mistakes that players make when playing Survival Hunter. The goal is that you can learn how to improve your own game and avoid mistakes by being more aware of the mistakes that others are making. There is a good chance that some of these apply to you. They are listed in no particular order.

About Our Author

This guide has been written by Azortharion, the main theorycrafter of the spec. He is also an accomplished player who raids in Solaris. You can also watch his stream on Twitch.

1. Not Casting Flanking Strike Enough

Many Survival Hunters fall prey to this by thinking of Flanking Strike Icon Flanking Strike as a filler when there is nothing else to do, when usually it should be cast essentially on cooldown. Its damage is on par with Mongoose Bite Icon Mongoose Bite even with several Mongoose Fury Icon Mongoose Fury stacks active.

Flanking Strike Icon Flanking Strike should be cast aggressively whenever you do not already have 3 charges of Mongoose Bite Icon Mongoose Bite available. The goal is to get as many Flanking Strikes off as possible without costing you any Mongoose Bites, and without wasting the Mongoose Bite charges it may generate.

2. Refreshing DoTs Too Much

As a Survival Hunter, most of your buttons, including your DoTs, are fillers that you cast whenever you are not currently in a Mongoose Fury Icon Mongoose Fury window, or when there is nothing else to do during a window, but keep the first mistake in mind — you should always have Focus to cast Flanking Strike Icon Flanking Strike on cooldown.

Having 100% uptime on Lacerate Icon Lacerate for example, is not a priority. You should keep the DoT up when you can, but this should never come at the expense of casting Mongoose Bite Icon Mongoose Bites and Flanking Strike Icon Flanking Strikes. The same goes for other DoTs, and especially other spells that cost Focus such as Raptor Strike Icon Raptor Strike.

3. Casting Aspect of the Eagle Too Early in Mongoose Fury

Mongoose Fury Icon Mongoose Fury lasts 14 seconds, while Aspect of the Eagle Icon Aspect of the Eagle lasts 10 seconds. Because you are always more powerful towards the end of Mongoose Fury because you have built up a high amount of stacks, it is always better to delay Aspect of the Eagle Icon Aspect of the Eagle ~4 seconds into the Fury window, ensuring that you get Eagle coverage on your 6-stack Mongoose Bite Icon Mongoose Bites in the end of the window.

4. Over-Prioritizing Fury of the Eagle

For its high cooldown and fancy effect, Fury of the Eagle Icon Fury of the Eagle is not actually a very powerful spell. You should be using it on cooldown when you have a high (>5) amount of Mongoose Fury stacks, but most importantly you should be ready to cancel it if you reach 3 charges of Mongoose Bite Icon Mongoose Bite. Ending a Mongoose Fury window sitting at 3 charges of Mongoose Bite Icon Mongoose Bite is a lot of wasted potential for 6-stack bites, and these take priority over fully channeling Fury of the Eagle Icon Fury of the Eagle.

You should also not cast Fury of the Eagle Icon Fury of the Eagle if Mok'Nathal Tactics Icon Mok'Nathal Tactics is just about to expire, and if you do, you should be ready to cancel it and Raptor Strike Icon Raptor Strike so that you do not drop the buff.

5. Dropping Your Mok'Nathal Tactics Buff

Staying on top of and never letting your Mok'Nathal Tactics Icon Mok'Nathal Tactics buff drop is hugely important, because dropping it will force you to spend valuable GCDs building it up again, and it will hugely disturb the flow of your rotation to let this happen. Your UI should be set up in a way that constantly has you aware of the remaining time left on the buff, so that you do not get distracted and drop it when executing the rest of your rotation.

6. Starting Mongoose Fury Windows Too Early

Before you think about opening a Mongoose Fury Icon Mongoose Fury window by using Mongoose Bite, you should ensure that you have all of your DoTs active, all of your filler abilities on cooldown and at least 2 charges of Mongoose Bite Icon Mongoose Bite available. Once you have set up everything so that you can focus on Mongoose Bite Icon Mongoose Bite and Flanking Strike Icon Flanking Strikes during a window, you should start it, and no earlier than that.

7. Not Knowing How To Sim Yourself

It is impossible to correctly play and optimize a Survival Hunter without using RaidBots to sim your own character, there are simply too many variables involved to intuitively figure out what gear to wear and so on without simming it first. Generally speaking, a simulation should be the first and final say in the gear you end up wearing for any given situation.

On top of this, simming is now very easy with no need to understand SimulationCraft APL's or installation yourself. All you will need is the in-game SimulationCraft AddOn, and the RaidBots website. Below you can find a video on how to sim your own character using the website.

8. Analyzing Your Mistakes as a Survival Hunter

When it comes to identifying and improving your mistakes, we strongly recommend the website WoWAnalyzer — it will analyze your logs and give you a report detailing how you did on the problems above and more.

9. ChangeLog

  • 24 Mar. 2018: Added common mistakes page.
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